Thursday, April 26, 2012

Are two radeon 6950's in sli better than a single GTX580?

i an building a gaming PC and having difficulty with deciding on the GPU. This PC will be mostly for playing battlefield 3 on Ultra settings. i have a budget of 1800 AU for the computer (not including a monitor, keyboard or mouse) and a overall budget of 2500 AU for everything including monitor, keyboard, mouse and a headset. apart from the GPU these are the other parts of the PC.



Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz

MSI P67A-GD53 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX UEFI BIOS

Thermaltake Black Widow W0319RU 850 Watt

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL

Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s

Thermaltake Frio

Silverstone RV02B-EW Silent Full Tower

please tell me what GPU i should get and if i should change any of the above parts thankyou.|||If I were you, I would wait less than a month. AMD's set to announce their new high end graphics card December 22 with mass shipment in early January. Rumor has it they're at least 30% faster than the 6970 (or about 20% faster than a 580), and is on par with a 6990, which is roughly equivalent to 6950s in crossfire.



I have 2 6850s in crossfire, and I would much rather have a 6950, 6970, or GTX 570 even if they have less power. Now, the 580 is outrageously priced, and a single 6950 is close to a GTX 580. In that case, crossfire makes more sense. The 6900 series is also better suited to crossfire.





So, if you HAVE to get a rig now, get 2 6950s in crossfire. But I would wait until December 22nd if I were you, as the 7970 will likely drive 6950 and 580 prices down no matter how good it is.|||The Radeons will get you better performance, yes. But the GeForces will get you much better drivers, PHysX and Cuda. I know AMD has a similar solution in GPGPU, but seriously, I've seen far more CUDA/PhysX programs out there than even programs with the AMD label.



Plus, one Graphics card has better effecieny/power ratio than two. And a 2-card solution might date rather quickly. At least you could still save up for another GTX580

Whats better, EVGA gtx560ti 2gb in sli, or MSI gtx580 3gb?

What would be a better set up, go with sli gtx 560ti 2gb, or go with 580gtx 3 gb, im going to spend 500-600 no matter what, im just trying to determine whats going to get me the performance im looking for. Buying one big card does leave room for adding another down the road tho, need help making up my mind. Will be running them with a nf-200 board, intel 2600k and 16gb memory.|||If you go for the EVGA cards then please use my Affiliate Code: DM0-UZI-DSC7 when registering|||GTX560 Ti SLI will beat out a GTX580, but you'll be limited by 2GB of vram and SLI

The GTX580 has a extra gig of vram plus can be SLI, Tri-SLI, and 4-way SLI



But unless you're using a large resolution from either one monitor or Nvidia 2D/3D Surround you won't really need more then 1GB



Proof that even GTX 560 SLI can beat a single GTX 580

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gt…



Even more proof Ti SLI beats 580

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2011-…|||After reading the attached MSI GTX N580 review, I will go for the GTX580 and I believe it will be faster than the sli 2xgtx560. You will have more expansion options.|||i doubt two 560 gtxs will be that much quicker.



I would go with the single GTX 580 as you do not have to worry about driver issues concerning SLI.

Should I buy a gaming computer with One nVidia GTX580 1536MB GDDR5 RAM PCI-E or Two XFX Radeon HD 6950?

The two XFX Radeon HD 6950 2GB GDDR5 will be set in crossfire...|||The amd 6950 crossfire would increase your fps while gaming even Bf3 would play at ultra setting with no problems , a gtx 580 would handle all games at high settings with the right specs, if not on a budget then go for the amd hd 6950 crossfire there isn't a game on the market today that those two cards can't handle again with the right specs.|||Definitely the Radeons, not because of more memory like that other boob said. At this point it won't make a difference. The two 6950s combined are simply faster than a single GTX 580.|||Radeon- More memory

What graphics card should i buy? Gtx580 or gtx460 2Win?

I was gonna get a gtx 580 for my new rig, but yesterday, EVGA announced their monster 460 dual GPU card, "460 2WIN" This card gives comparatively better frame rates than the 580 and is extremely cheap (it would be 2X 460's price - 10%) about 45 - 50 USD less.



But i'm not sure whether to get this or the 580 .



please advise me on this.

thanks

-Shanike-|||benchmarks say the 460 2win is the way to go and at a cheaper price seems like there's an obvious choice

For gtx580 sli - should i buy 24' 1920x1080 or 22' 1680x1024?

with 1680 I'll get more fps (with settings maxed out)

with 1920 - less fps (with few settings turned off)?|||Get the 24" @ 1080. You'll have more resolution options available (1024, 1050 and 1080) allowing you to optimize image framerates.

Will 2x gtx580 fit in thermaltake v9 case?

Hi!

Basically yeah, this is the question. Want to go SLI but don't know if it'll fit. I'm kind of short on space, so it's the biggest case i can install. Some help is very appreciated.|||{





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{|||It will but depends on your motherboard space actually plus your cpu fan size.|||Sure, but why aren't you using two GTX 590's ?



They look cooler, and play cooler. Literally.

Will my OCZ GSX 600 suffice when running Nvidia GTX580?

Okay, so i just received my GTX 580 Graphics card in the mail, and I'm starting to worry about it the PSU will suffice. Anyone got any input on my concerns? thanks.



Link for the PSU: http://www.ocztechnology.com/ocz-gamexstream-600w-700w-power-supply-eol.html

And here's the GFX: http://www.nvidia.com/object/product-geforce-gtx-580-us.html|||600w is the minimum that Nvidia recommends for that card. You should be good unless you plan on upgrading anything else in your computer.

I have a galaxy geforce gtx580 with 3 built in fans do thay suck air in or blow air out?

my pc gets a little warm when i tuch towards the bottom of the pc case when playing games and i wanted to know because i also have 2 case fans 1 in the front of the case blowing air in and 1 in the back sucking air out i want to know if i should put the case fans the other way around with the 1 in the back blowing air in and the 1 in the front sucking air out|||The question is a little misleading. Are you asking about the fans on your GPU or the case fans?. The GPU fans will blow air across the heatsink to cool the processor. Your case fans should always pull air in on the front and push it out the back or top. Heat rises, so you need to keep the flow moving from front-bottom to back-top. Also, is your power supply on the bottom or top of your case? you may be feeling this as the warm part and yes, that is always going to be warm.|||The fans on the Galaxy Geforce GTX 580 blows air out.



The front one in-taking air is just fine. The back should be left just as it is.



I suggest top exhaust if possible and side intakes. Hot air rises, so a top exhaust should greatly help in taking all the hot air out of the case, and the side in-taking would cool your GPU etc.



Remember that in-take fans are esstential. Hot air will find it's way out of the case, but cool air won't come in as readily.|||http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;…

Is it possible to change the Graphics card on my MSI GT780R?

I was wanting to at somepoint change the graphics card on my Gaming laptop to the GTX580 once they are released into the market.|||No, you can't can't upgrade the graphics card in a laptop.





EDIT:

I apologize for generalizing my answer.

You have one of those rare cases where the GPU is indeed an MXM style GPU.



When the mobile MXM version of the GTX580 is released you will be able to upgrade.|||Yeah you can. You might even be able to add one.

What makes a video memory, or graphics card, run out of memory?

When I play Shogun II total war, it freezes in 15 or 20 minutes, but when I play Empire total war, it freezes in approximately 5 hours.

and an error message shows up saying "run out of video memory".

I don't know what causes it, and I would appreciate any help.



I have nvidia gtx580 installed.|||That doesn't sound right because the GTX580 should play those games with hands down no problem. your card might be defective. I recommend you contact Nvidia about this.

Is this a good gaming PC: Intel Core i7 2600, GeForce GTX580 1.5GB DDR5, ASUS P8H61-M LE?

I would like to be able to play the latest games, like Battlefield 3, Crysis 2, but for some reason I am a little concerned about this motherboard. Anyway, is this setup good?|||it's an ok setup

Get a GTX580 or wait for Kepler?

I've bought a GTX580 a few days ago. It's a great card, and does well, but it cost around $500, and it in't exactly brand new at this point (with it being released last year). I'm considering returning it in a few days and just sticking to my GTX285 until the Kepler cards come out, whose high-end card will probably cost around $500. Should I do that and just wait for Kepler? The only games I'm interested in this year are Skyrim and Battlefield 3, both coming out significantly later this year. And I want my card to last for a few years, and I guess until those games come out, the GTX580 is just doing the job that my 285 could be doing all along. So, should I wait until Q4 2011-Q1 2012 for Kepler?



Because, ideally, I'd want to max out those games on release, and enjoy any DX11/Tessellation features they may have. A GTX580 can do that. But for the games that would follow after, and with the promise that Kepler has, I keep thinking that, for that price, I should just wait a few months to get it, instead.



My original thought was to get a 580, wait some time, and maybe SLI with another 580 when the price drops to $300, or less.



Thank you.|||>It sounds like you are half convinced to return the card and wait for Kepler. Why not just follow your better judgment and do that and wait it out if your GTX 285 will do the work you want right now.|||your graphics card choice should be based on your monitor resolution,

assuming you have 22 inch monitor with 1080p resolution,a 560ti would do the job,

at the highest quality and resolution for about 3 years



580 is high wattage,high noise and heat maker not good for practical use|||Do you really wanna play the waiting game?

With computers you'll always be playing the waiting game

And no point in taking the card back now since you have it and they'll charge you a 15% restocking fee|||Kepler is still just rumours. Grab a GTX 570. only 15% less performance.|||Wait for kepler and then buy a gtx 580 when the prices plummet ^^.|||You should return it if you can get a full refund.



eVGA is selling a "b-stock" basically just the GTX 580 itself with 90 day limited warranty for $380. Then I would SLI it later. Also, a GTX 580 should max out BF3 pretty well. They stated that a GTX 460 (single) would be a recommended card. Your GTX 580 is wat better than you 285 by the way. If you're getting similar results, then you need a new cpu or your monitor resolution isnt very demanding.



Keplars are coming out soon. I can tell because the GTX 460s are being clearanced by a lot of sites. If I were you, I'd refund the 580 for $500. Sell you GTX 285 (for like $100). Pick up two GTX 460 and SLI (which will give you the performance of the 580), live with that until the Keplars are cheaper. There arent even any games out that require much more than SLI 460s. It's not like there's DX12 or games that are pushing graphics. Keplar is going to be a bad launch, due to economy and due to the lack of games pushing graphics. Unless Keplars are cheap and low power consumption, I would wait a year before buying the next Nvidia cards. Also, Radeon dropped out of the performance race so NVidia is going to be entering that elite video card realm alone.

EVGA GTX580 Classified Hydro-copper in 4-way SLI?

I am designing an "extreme" computing project, and am looking into 4-way SLI. The EVGA GTX580 Classified Hydro-copper is 4-way SLI enabled, but the card (by the look of it) is not truly single-slot. Can other cards fit in between the four cards? I plan on using the EVGA SR-2 motherboard. I just don't want to monopolize all seven PCI-E slots with four video cards (add a TOS-link card, perhaps?).|||Yes it is truly single slot and as far as I know computing projects don't take advantage of SLI

Will i receive a GTX580?

my gtx480 AMP edition has weird artifacts and i will have to send it back to newegg or Nvidia. Will i most likely get a gtx580 instead of another 480?|||What makes you think you'll get a 580? You paid for a 480, and since those are still in production its almost certain you'll get a 480.|||no way they will just give u another 480 for sure. you might be able to request a exchange though

Is a 750W power supply enough for an intel core i7 @3.4Ghz processor and a GTX580 graphics card?

I am seriously considering buying a computer with these parts and I was wondering if 750W is enough? I may consider overclocking at a later date as well.

Other specs:

8GB RAM 1333Mhz

Z68 Chipset Motherboard

3.5" 1TB / 1000GB SATA III 7200rpm HDD

Best answer - 10 points!|||Should work fine with 750W. The minimum recommended power supply is 600W.

Which graphics card should i choose, The Nvidia Geforce GTX580 Or ATI Radeon HD5970?

I have always been on the Nvidia side when it comes to graphics cards, they seem more reliable, i was about to choose the 1.5GB Geforce GTX580 for my latest PC but i rather like the sound of the 2GB ATI Radeon HD5970. Can you tell me which card is better and why? Thanks for your help.|||They are both comparable cards, in terms of performance, the 5970 is generally faster, but the GTX 580 does beat it in some benchmarks. One thing to consider the the physical size of the card. The 5970 is huge, it's about foot long and it can't fit an all cases.





Overclocking a 5770 to match the speed of a GTX 580 or 5970? Really? What an asinine claim.|||The Geforce GTX580 is much faster at tessellation, although the HD5970 is faster overall because it's effectively two HD5850s. This means that the ATI card is faster at DX9 and DX10, but much slower at DirectX11. The HD5xxx series of cards are quite weak at DX11, I've just replaced my HD5870 with a GTX580 and it's much better, it's a nice card. If the choice was mine I'd pick the GTX580.|||neither... id get an ATI 5770 and overclock it as its cheaper than the above cards you mentioned but can be overclocked to the same speeds.|||The GTX480 nearly matched the 5970 and the GTX580 is faster then the GTX480

Can i connect the GTX480 GPU with the GTX 580 GPU with SLI connection ?

can i connect the GTX480 GPU with the GTX 580 GPU with SLI connection ?

is the answer yes why it's yes and what is the benift of that ?

and if the answer is no why i cant connect them with an SLI connection ?

and what is the best to buy a new GPU gtx580 or to but other GTX480 and connect it to the other GPU gtx480 with SLI connection ? and why ?|||No, you cannot SLI a GTX 480 with a GTX 580. To run two or more cards in SLI, they have to be the exact same model card. If you already have a GTX 480, then buy a second one. Brand name is irrelevant, just as long as it's a GTX 480.

Is this video card compatible with my computer?

I am trying to keep my computer upgraded. I currently have a 1-7 950 processor with Intel X58 Motherboard, and I am wanted to upgrade my video card to the EVGA GTX580. Will it work?|||Yes, it will work fine and your PSU is also fine.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/…



Minimum PSU for this card is 600 watts, so you have 150 watts overhead to keep everything running nice and smooth.|||the 580 needs a stronger supply stick with corsair antec or seasonic



a 460 or 570 will do the job 580 is overkill



I will take or buy your old video card, gbrownresume@yahoo.com



sounds like you upgrade a lot, I dont|||Probably.

The only thing I'm interested in is your power supply. It will need to be 600 watt or greater (recommended by Nvidia).|||Why not do something CONSTRUCTIVE with your time, you silly hypocrite. Your recession must be over with.|||GTX580 is pretty overkill unless you game a lot, get a GTX460.

How To Handle A Graphics Card Without Damaging it?

I've Bought A Ge-force Gtx580 Graphics card and i want to know the precautions on how to handle it and fix it to my cpu without damaging it..|||how would you fix it to your CPU? i think you mean slot it into the motherboard.



the precautions i take are to wear latex gloves and hold it gently by the edges, as you slot it in, gently press the card into the slot making sure your fingers are pushing it from the top. you should hear a click or some noise to alert you that it is in and secure, just give it another couple of gentle pushes either end,|||Nice! They are fairly robust. Just dont touch the contact stirp the bit that looks like little gold teeth as thats the most fragile part! Make sure you 'earth' yourself before opening you unit up too. Just touch somthing metal that is plugged into a wall socket so you do not damage other delicate components.|||Just make sure you don't have static on your hands. Touch a metal part of the case and you'll be fine.

Nvidia GTX560SLI or GTX580?

Ok I'm planning to upgrade from my 8800GTS and I'm not sure if I'm better off going for two 560s or one 580.



Both options cost just over €500 and I think specs are very similar.|||580|||Although I can't confirm it...

I think the GTX560SLI performs slightly better than the GTX580.

But beware, SLI will most likely result in high power consumption, and probably more heat will be released.|||THIS ONE IS BEST ACCORDING TO YOUR REQUIREMENT



EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti Superclocked 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card - Lifetime Warranty 01G-P3-1563-AR

*GEForce GTX 560 Ti with 900 MHz core clock

*PCI Express 2.0

*1024 MB 256-bit 0.4ns GDDR5 memory

*4212 MHz memory clock and 1800 MHz shader clock

*NVIDIA 2-way SLI ready

Can I play 3d blu-ray movies using my blu-ray drive in my computer or will I need to buy a new drive?

Ive got a radeon HD6870 but I'm planning on buying a Nvidia GTX480 or GTX580 and 3D vision screen, will this have any effect?|||What you need is the CyberLink BD Advisor. It will tell you if everything on your system is as Bluray 3d-capable as it needs. You'll know for sure with this.



I found out I had a HDMI cable of the wrong version (1.1 instead of 1.3a....most recent is 1.4 now)



You should still be able to play the Bluray in 3d using that 480GTX with nVidia's 3d-Vision software. Works great for 2 customers so far.



*Quote: "The cards will also support 3D Blu-ray. So, just about time to splurge big on that home theater PC?"

Gtx580 or 6870 crossfire?

i've noticed that they perform similarly but the 6870 CF is a lot cheaper. i know it may require more power, may get hotter, but which is better if you ONLY consider FPS? what are the disadvantages of crossfire? (im going to be running them in 8x, 8x)|||Gtx580|||ATI FOR PERFORMANCE

NVIDIA FOR QUALITY



I GO FOR ATI... :)

AMD Radeon HD6970 or Nvidia GeForce GTX580?

Trying to make the best gaming computer possible, but as usual it starts with a choice. I researched both of these graphic cards and I hear both is the best, but which one is better than the other?|||For performance not regarding cost, power requirements, or cooling, the GTX 580 is a better card. For the best possibly computer you should get four GTX 580 cards in quad-sli on a SR-2 motherboard with two 6 core 3.33ghz intel xeon CPUs. Try to get a 1600w power supply and a case that fits the motherboard. The whole system should cost you under $8,000.|||GTX580.

Whats your budget?

Contact me if you need help selecting parts|||GTX580

NVidia GTX580 driver crashes, how to fix?

Whenever a play a 'demanding' game, the drivers crash for the card. It's starting to annoy me now... I have a KFA2 Anarchy Edition GTX580, Intel core i7 2600k @Stock clock, 16GB DDR3 Corsair Vengeance, an ASUS Maximus IV-Extreme-Z Z68 mobo and a Corsair Enthusiast Series TX 750W PSU.



Everything is at stock clock, what could the problem be?



Tried the 280.26 driver, no luck, currently using the 275.33 driver|||I'm using the 280.26 drives for my 580's sli, no problem at all. Check your GPU temps make sure they got gettin to hot.|||I usually wait for NVIDIA to come out with a new driver. There is not much you can do.



I used to use Windows Vista and brought an NVIDIA card, and it would crashed when I watch videos. Eventually, they corrected the driver issues.|||I was using 280, but had to go back to 275.

Which graphics card set up is better, 3x Gigabyte HD6850's Overclocked vs a Gigabyte GTX580 super overclocked?

Of course the 3 HD6850's will be in crossfire and the GTX580 will be running by itself, both setups are around the same price|||3 6850's will beat the 1.5GB version of the GTX 580. But a gtx 580 3GB will beat all of them down.|||:O YOU FOUND A MB WITH 3 PCI-e SLOTS??? Damn, don't waste it, use the triple-set.

What graphics card should i get? GT440 3gb or gtx580 1gb?

What graphics card should i get for my new pc? the GT440 (1gb) or the gtx580 (3gb) and why? i can get them for the same price so don't say the cheapest one plz. and which one will run battlefield 3 better when it comes out?|||Don't you know that the GTX580 is currently the best graphics card? Despite having a 3GB memory, the GT440 is only at #134 in this list:

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_li…



Go for the GTX580 if you can afford it. You won't find any game in the next year or so that won't run on it.|||gtx580 is the better one. dont always go on the one with larger vram. but the other one is also good so if i would have to buy one, i would buy the gtx580

Is it worth upgrading from 2 Geforce 7950GX2 in Quad SLI to a Geforce GTX580?

My old Athlon64 system died, so I just built a i5 sandy bridge system almost from the ground up. I thought I could get away with keeping the old and Video cards which are XFX Geforce 7950GX2, but the performance in newer games such as The Witcher 2 and Duke Nukem Forever is below 25FPS on medium graphical settings at 1280X720.



Alternatively I was thinking maybe two(2) Geforce GTX560-TIs in SLI would offer good performance if SLI has gotten any better from 2006.|||SLI improved with the Fermi series. Sometimes you will see a 50%-80% improvment by adding a second GTX 400/500 series card in SLI. With the GTX 200 series cards in SLI you would see a 50% performance gain at the most.



As you know, it all depends on the game.



Just two of the regular GTX 560 (non-ti) cards in SLI are a little bit more powerful than a single GTX 580. Two of the GTX 560 ti cards in SLI are almost as powerful as a Single GTX 590 Dual-GPU card.



The GTX 580 is a very nice card but it just doesn't give you much bang for your buck. The GTX 580 is 12% faster than the GTX 570 but the GTX 580 costs 42% more than the GTX 570.



Single cards like the GTX 560 ti and the Radeon 6950 will play most games on the highest settings using a 1080p monitor.|||Upgrading to a GTX260 would be a upgrade from the 7950GX2 which is several generations older then the GTX580

So really asking if it's worth it is a dumb question

But since you're running such a low res using a 580 would be a waste of a good video card|||2 560's would be awesome, but keep in mind a 570GTX would cost $150 less. Your only hold back with the 570GTX is you will need a PSU with 38+Amps on the +12Volt rail of your PSU. So if you already had a good enough spec PSU the 570GTX overclocked would be your better value. Especially since you aren't using high resolution.

Should i crossfire or get a better video card?

Will running crossfire on a 6950 be better than asus matrix gtx580 platinum?



and if crossfire, what video cards?|||Yes... if you're looking for RAW performance it's always better to get 2 cards that are just a bit less than half the price of the top of the line model. Two 6950's in crossfire will come close to a 6990. You wouldn't think so, but a single 6990 is slower than two 6970's in Crossfire.



This is a rule of thumb. You could take a 5970 that has two Cypress XT cores and clock them to the same speed as a single 5870. The Cypress XT based 5870's in Crossfire clocked to 850mhz will always beat a 5970 that clocked to 850mhz.



However, the best thing to do is just to buy the best single card solution you can buy. You can add a second card in the future when the price of the card comes down. If you plan to do that, make sure you buy a power supply that will support two cards.



The other drawbacks of dual card solutions include more heat and higher power consumption. In addition to that Crossfire and SLI aren't consistent, not all games will see an 80% performance boost. Some games only see a 30%-50% increase and there are games like WOW that see barely a performance increase. Finally, Sli and Crossfire both have issues with Microstuttering.



The truth and only truth to video cards is, you're buying a card to suit your Display resolution. For a 1920x1080 monitor you won't see any difference by going above a Radeon 6970 or a GTX 570, for a 1680x1050 monitor a single Radeon 6850 or a GTX 560ti will max every thing out.



I would just get an EVGA model because they have the best customer support. On top of that EVGA uses reference cards and most of the watercooling blocks are made for those cards. Otherwise I would get the MSI Hawk since it's clocked higher and it doesn't have that large cooler. I'm not sure if you could ever run the matrix in SLI because of the size of the cooler. You would have to buy the right motherboard for that.



The GTX 580 by it's self needs a 650w power supply, the 6950's in X-Fire would need 750w.|||Two 6870's will beat an overclocked GTX 580.





The Asus matrix is another marketing ploy by Asus so they can have one of the best cards on teh market. The difference between the Matrix and a regular GTX 580 is nothing you will notice. Maybe 5% at the most.|||If you're asking this and think the 2500K and 2600K are the same, then it's clear that you're NOT building a Video Editing rig and you're probably trolling.|||GTX 580 ?



Are you mad ??



You need the GTX 590 !



It's the world's first and only dual core GPU ~!



And did I mention it's quiet ??



Looks, and sounds sexy.

NVidia GTX580 vs GTX580mobile...?

I've been wondering about this question for a bit but I can't exactly make sense of the technical specs of these two cards in comparison to each other. Obviously, the mobile version of the 580 desktop card has to be stripped down somewhere because it's going into a laptop, but can they still be put side by side power-wise?



As in, if a certain game were to require a 580 (as in the desktop version) to run High or Ultra-High Settings, would the mobile version of the 580 also be able to run those settings? How huge is the difference between the desktop and the mobile version of these cards?



Thanks!!



PS: I have a 580m in my laptop and I'm curious as to what settings I can expect to run Battlefield 3 on smoothly when it comes out. Like 30+ Frames per second. I assume between medium-high and high-ish? definitely not the Ultra settings though, I've heard that it will require at least two desktop 580s in SLI.



Thanks again!|||Mobile cards are not even the same chipset, or GPU. They are low end cards with a name everyone recognises. For example, the mobile version of the GTX 280 was not a GT200, but actually an old G92 that was in the 9800 GT and was much less powerful. Same goes for these....the GTX 580m mobile has probably less then 40% the throughput as the actual GTX 580. Laptops are not for gaming...people need to understand that...



There is no real way over this text box to teach you how to tell which one is faster based on numbers...that's like trying to teach how to fix a car engine over text...you need to really read information and teach yourself from people better then you with pointed questions but the easiest way to see whats faster is the number of stream processors (nvidia calls them cuda cores)



it's all marketting to sell old chips to dumb consumers.|||The GTX580M is a fast GPU that can play games at medium to high settings but is not comparable with the GTX580. In fact, they are not even close. Look here:

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_li…



If you want to know how your GPU fares with a certain game, test it here:

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyr…

Gtx580 and 3 monitors?

Quick question, is it possible to hook up 3 monitors to 1 gtx 580.



1 monitor with HDMI and 2 monitors with normal DVI|||No.



Absolutely NONE of nVidia's consumer-grade video cards can support three monitors on 1 card. The GTX580 supports a maximum of TWO monitors only.



If you want to run three monitors, you will need to add ANOTHER GTX580.



If you really want to run triple monitors off one card, you need a DisplayPort-equipped version of ATI's HD5000- or HD6000-series. And the third monitor MUST be connected to the DisplayPort jack for triple monitors to work.

Which of these should I get 2x 1.5gb gtx580 or 2x 3gb gtx580 or 2x 3gb gtx590?

Which would be the best for getting the best frame rate at highest graphics and also money wise and noise levels|||What kind of monitor are you going to use?



In regards to the GTX 590, On the box it says 3gb of graphics memory. However that memory is not shared. One half of the memory goes to one GPU, the other half goes to the other.



If you plan to Crank up the AA on the 5760X1080 setup you will need the 3gb of V-RAM. The GTX 590 will suffer from a memory bottleneck. This makes the Radeon 6990 a better card since the memory bottle neck isn't quite as bad.



With the 5760X1080 setup, 2x 3gb GTX 580's in SLI you give you the ability to crank up the AA with lower framrates. Two GTX 590's in SLI will crap out once the setting go beyond AA. While 2x GTX 590 in SLI will give much higher frames with no AA. With no AA two 3gb GTX 580's will be slower than two GTX 590's in SLI. Your call. 3x 3gb GTX 580's in triple SLI would be ideal for running this in 3D.



The single 2560X1600 monitor in 3D would benefit the most from the from the horsepower of 2x GTX 590's in SLI. You could get 2x 1.5gb GTX 580's and be fine. The 3gb GTX 580 model isn't needed for the single 2560X1600 monitor.|||Well, if money is no object, 2.3gb gtx 590. for price, 2.3gb gtx580. the 590 is really new, so the gtx580 will have a brief dip in price, but it will go up again when the 590 isn't cutting edge.|||2x 3gb gtx590

In this comparison, more is always better. However, performance:cost ratio will suffer as the 590s are currently top of the line.



Also, I think 3x 3D monitors require 3 graphics cards.|||Looks good so far



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How to get a free GTX580 ? =]?

i think i just wasted 4 points.|||And i just got some free ones. The world makes sense again.|||Steal it

MATRIX GTX580/2DIS/1536MD5 Help please!?

Hey guys, my mates MATRIX GTX580/2DIS/1536MD5 graphics card seems to be crashing his BF3, he has a 500 watt power supply and he thinks this is the problem, I just need to know if this is is actually the problem before he goes out and buys a new supply, (even though he is well due for one) I just dont want him buying one and still having the problem. Any ideas?|||Simply upgrade the driver for the graphics card first. You can download the latest driver from http://www.nvidia.co.uk Also, make sure that all updates for his operating system and software are installed. The power supply should be fine, although 600W would be better most likely.

Does the GTX580 Graphics card support 1440x900 resolution?

Some one said it doesn't, is this true?|||Yes. Easily.



The GTX580 can support monitors up to 2560x1600 resolution, as a matter of fact. 1440x900 is child's play for it.|||It says it does in the link in the sources, however, over there it says "Super clocked GTX 580" I am not sure if that has anything to do with it.

Can a G31tm-P21 motherboard support a Nvidia GTX580?

I currently have a 9800gt in my pc and it works pretty well in my mobo.My mobo is pci-e 1 and I wanted to know if it would provide enough support for a gtx580. This is regardless of psu,cpu.I just want to know if the mobo can support it.|||According to MSI Website

http://us.msi.com/index.php?func=prodmbs…



It's supported However I'm thinking it's going to have limited impact... I'm thinking Maybe a 20% increase in frame rate.

That board has low End DDR2 800 thats a huge bottleneck on the whole of the computer.



If i was you I'd Personally Purchase a New Board + New Ram DDR3 1033 + the Nvidia 460 SE (150$)

and you would still have money left.... the GTX 580's start at 460$|||Yes.... It's not the amount it's the Speed of the Ram... that Ram DDR2 800 is almost 7 years old

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Would 2 GTX580 graphics cards run BF3 in high specs?

I'm looking to play the upcoming Battlefield 3 for PC in relatively high specs, but I'm a little computer illiterate (console noob), and I don't fully understand all the aspects of graphics cards and specifications. Although I'm aware the nvidia GTX580 is a year old, but I heard it to be quite powerful in SLI configuration (crossfire). Would it work well or just average or not at all?

Thank you.|||2 GTX580s in SLI would provide smooth gameplay on high settings. even a single GTX 580 can run BF3 on high settings.



Goodluck on playing BF3. :)|||Just grab one GTX 580. It's a very high end card as it is. And unless you're playing at 2560x1600, then two aren't worth it. One can handle BF3 maxed out at 1920x1080 just fine. My GTX 470 gets an average of 37-42fps maxed out @ 1920x1080 in BF3. Still a very playable experience. The GTX 580 is considerably faster, so one is enough. Just be sure your power supply is sufficient enough for it. At least a quality 650w-750w psu. For two in SLI, then 850w or higher.|||Yes, it would run it, but two 570's can also crank out the same performance that is visible. You are obviously going to have a higher framerate with the two 580's, but it won't make a difference since you can't physically see the difference. You can only see ~60FPS, and two 570's will get you around 100. two 580s will give you around 160.|||i was playing the beta on a superclocked gtx 460 SE and it was nearly full graphics on 1920x1080 single monitor. the only things are i had AA one notch down and also post processing was medium...im sure if you got even a gtx560 it would be smooth on everything, 1 gtx 580 will surely be enough for all games out there to date

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Is water cooling really necessary for my computer?

I love the idea of water cooling because it is a very efficient way of cooling components and it looks cool too (pun intended). I do not plan to overclock whatsoever, but I do plan to have 3-way SLI configuration (Three GTX580's).



I've heard that water cooling is really only necessary if you plan to overclock. Since I wont be overclocking, I'm really only interested in water cooling if it extends the life of the GPUs or if it allows the GPU to somehow run "better".|||hi canucks, although water cooling is the best form of cooling no if you are not over clocking then you do not need water cooling and the gpu only pertains to video cards. and you will need a heatsink because the processor really get's hot so a heatsink is a must. i was looking at corsair heatsink there is no modifacation like water cooling does it is already set up so all you have is a radiator and two lines but i heard you must puch that cooling down on the processor for it to be able to get it to work. but let's discuss heatsink alcua is the best on the market it has tubing cooling. that is not my opinion it is pc magazines opinion. good luck hope i was helpful to you|||I don't suggest you to use it. Water cooling is essential for those computers which use a lot of power (High Graphics, High RAM, High Speed CPU and High Power Usage) e.g. Gaming Computers. Water cooling does not extend the life of the GPUs and it does not allow it to run better.



If you really want your GPU and CPU to run better, it is better if you use your Computer in a 10°C or 50°F temperature using a fan-cooled computer.(Imagine if you use a water-cooled computer in 10°C and below)|||just think about what will happen when ti leak.

And no water cooling is not necessary|||Totally unnecessary.

What is the difference between a NVIDIA GTX580 and an EVGA GTX580 Graphics card?

I'm looking at building a new PC and decided I wanted to get a NVIDIA GTX580 GPU. Then I went to look for one to buy, and now I'm seeing all these different brands making a GTX580, but not NVIDIA. Firstly, does NVIDIA actually make a GTX580, not just design it? Because no matter where I look, I can only find other branded cards, like EVGA or ASUS etc. Is there a NVIDIA brand GTX580, or are they just all manufactured by different companies? Or does NVIDIA make the card and then send them out to other companies who just change them a bit and call them there own? I have been on different pc websites (PCCG etc.) and when i go to look at the GPU's they sell, I click on NVIDIA, then it comes up with all these GTX580's made by ASUS or EVGA and no NVIDIA ones, so my best guess is that other companies just make the NVIDIA design (but when I click on the card to see the specs of it, i see it's made by ASUS or ASUS brand, but I see the NVIDIA brand emblem and the GeForce emblem on the webpage to, next to the ASUS brand emblem). However, are these cards technically called a NVIDIA card, or just a GTX580 design? Do they all have a NVIDIA chip or something, and are they all technically NVIDIA GPU's but just with some other stuff from other companies? And finally, if I get an EVGA card, will I be able to use the NVIDIA drivers off the NVIDIA website, and will it be read as a NVIDIA card in my computer specs? thanks.|||NVIDIA makes the card. Then brands like EVGA, ASUS, etc. sells it.



The only difference I see is that EVGA sells video cards at stock speed, and an overclocked version, which other companies do too.



All of those cards are technically NVIDIA's, it's just that a different company is selling it.

So yes they are NVIDIA GPUs, but with other stuff from other companies.

No matter what company you get it from, it will still use the drivers of the NVIDIA website, as it's an NVIDIA card.|||nVIDIA MANUFACTURERS THE gpu AND THE OTHER COMPANIES SUPPLY THE BODY. Oops caps lock. I prefer those manufactured by EVGA. because of their quality products and lifetime warranty in respect to their AR and A1 model numbers. I purchased the

EVGA GeForce GTX 570 Classified 1280 MB GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 2DVI/HDMI/Display Port SLI Ready Limited Lifetime Warranty Graphics Card, 012-P3-1578-AR

See the AR at the end? I made sure I bought one with that on the end. Long as I register within 30 days and upload a copy of my invoice I am covered. I registered within 2 HOURS of having the card installed so um yeah I am covered. I just did a screen capture of my invoice over at Amazon, called EVGA to confirm that I was registered and my invoice screen capture was a valid way of registering and they said it was all good. I also received 3dMark for free for which I needed to make sure I had a valid invoice already uploaded. The request was approved so my invoice must be good. The bottom line is that at the heart of the geforce/GTX cards there is a Nvidia chip/GPU and at the heart of a ATI HD series card there is an ATI/AMD chip/GPU.|||nVidia makes the actual graphics chip, and different manufacturers such as EVGA are free to change the design, the heatsink, the ports on the card, but the graphics chip is the same across all brands.



You can download nVidia drivers regardless of who manufactured the card, as long as the graphics chip is made by nVidia.

Does Huntkey 600W PSU provide enough power for GTX580?

I bought both of them, but on a forum, someone told me to find out if my psu is good enough for my gtx580. Can anyone help me about it? He also said something about v12 channel or voltage or something. lol|||I highly doubt it. That's a monster video card. I'm getting a 570 GTX tomorrow and I'm hoping my 650 watt Antec can handle it|||http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gt…

GTX 580 graphics card is rated at 243 Watts power consumption. 600 W may not be sufficient.